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Topics / Date updated Sunday / Holiday office hours changes December 3, 2008

Goose Solution May 5, 2004

    Seattle Covered Moorage Issues: Sprinklers - Draft Curtains - Heat Vents? April 18, 2005
Marina Outdoor Storage November 17, 2004
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NOTHING IS AS CONSTANT AS CHANGE
What's new?

Changes in Office hours for Sundays and Holidays:

The marina is changing its Sunday hours to reflect the holiday season. On Sundays, the office hours will be from 12:00 Noon to 4:00 PM. We hope this modification does not cause any hardships for our boat and dry storage tenants. In the event you need to access through the large gate to your dry storage early sunday, please let us know. We will make provisions to move your boat into the parking lot on Saturday to allow you early departure on Sunday. The man gate will continue to be available 24 / 7.

Holiday schedule for Salmon Bay Marina will be as follows:

Date
Open hours
Close hours
December 24, 2008 Closed Closed
December 25, 2008 Closed Closed
December 26, 2008 12:00 (noon)

4:00 PM

December 31, 2008 8:00 AM 12:00 PM (Noon)
January 1, 2009 Closed Closed
January 2, 2009 8:00 AM 4:00 PM

 

Changes in Office Staffing:

Elizabeth Keith Off To College and Marlee Draper Spencer will fill in on Sundays and Monday's during Holliday Season

The first part of September, Elizabeth Keith is off to Corbin College in Salem Oregon. She will be majoring in Business as well as playing on the Varsity Golf Team. We all wish her well while at Corbin College.

A fimiliar face, Marlee Draper Sampson will be filling in on Sundays and Mondays for the Christmas holliday season. Marlee worked as Marina Manager in the 1980's so for those of you who remember back that far come in and say hi. We look forward to her help.

 

God vs Science

A science professor begins his school year with a lecture to the students, "Let me explain the problem science has with religion." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand.

"You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes sir," the student says.
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"Are you good or evil?"
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly. "Aha! The Bible!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help him? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"But why not say that? You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could. Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't."
The student does not answer, so the professor continues. "He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"
The student remains silent.
"No, you can't, can you?" the professor says. He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax.
"Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er...yes," the student says.
"Is Satan good?"
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. "No."
"Then where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From God"
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he? Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything, correct?"
"Yes."
"So who created evil?" The professor continued, "If God created everything, then God created evil, sinc e evil exists, and according to the principle that our works define who we are, then God is evil."
Again, the student has no answer. "Is there sickness? Immorality?
Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things, do they exist in this world?"
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"So who created them?"
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats his question. "Who created them?" There is still no answer. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the classroom. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues onto another student. "Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor, I do."
The old man stops pacing. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"
"No sir. I've never seen Him."
R20;Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir, I have not."
"Have you ev er felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?"
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"Yes."
"According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?"
"Nothing," the student replies. "I only have my faith."
"Yes, faith," the professor repeats. "And that is the problem science has with God. There is no evidence, only faith."

The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking a question of His own. "Professor, is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"And is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No sir, there isn't."
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which is no heat,! but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest -458 degrees."
"Everybody or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.
Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom, sounding like a hammer.
"What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes," the professor replies without hesitation. "What is night if it isn't darkness?"
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word."
"In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?"
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him. This will be a good semester. "So what point are you making, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed."
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time. "Flawed? Can you explain how?"
"You are working on the premise of duality," the student explains.
"You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought."
"It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the absence of it."
"Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he realizes where the argument is going. A very good semester, indeed.
"Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the commotion has subsided.
"To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, let me give you an example of what I mean."
The student looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?" The class breaks out into laughter.
"Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, with all due respect, sir."
"So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your lectures, sir?"
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student, his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers. "I guess you'll have to take them on faith."
"Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists with life," the student continues. "Now, sir, is there such a thing as evil?"
Now uncertain, the professor responds, "Of course, there is. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."
To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil . Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."
The professor sat down.


If you read it all the way through and had a smile on your face when you finished, mail to your friends and family with the title "God vs. Science"



City of Seattle Covered Moorage Requirements:

We are still battling Emperor Nichols and his Court Jesters.
The City of Seattle Mayor and City Council are still requiring us to fulfill their new laws concerning heat vents, draft curtains and new standpipes. Lord Nelson (Fire Chief Nelson) and the City of Seattle's Court Jesters (City Council) have overruled any "grandfather clause" that we attempted to request. A marina across from us on the north side of the Lake Washington Ship Canal retained a design company to evaluate the costs for new code conformance. That marina has 25 covered slips and ours has 101 covered slips. The evaluation resulted in an estimate at $500,000 to conform. Our conformance has been estimated to be $2,500,000 to follow how the City thinks the fire code should be intrupted. We have been in contact with the Emperors fire department and engineering staff and presented what we think conforms to their code. Hopefully having our new shop will allow us to do a portion of the required improvements in-house. This may keep the costs down.

Earlier we indicated that a new moorage agreement would be necessary when the implementation of Emperor Nichols laws begins. We have postponed completing and sending the revised agreement until all of the City requirements are clarified. The clarifications should reduce confusion between the Marina, the City of Seattle, and our marina tenants.

Electrical + Telephone + Cable.

So far we have the electrical portion to the slips complete. All tenants who had the 20-amp power now have either 30-amp or 50-amp power. We are still waiting for the Cable Company to bring in the cable to our marina. When they do that, we will be able to pull both cable + telephone lines simultaneously.

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Goose Solution: Every year until this year (we hope), the Canadian Geese took over the waters between our piers. They tend to sleep and sun themselves on our docks leaving unsightly gooey deposits behind. We are now using his S.S. Minnow to herd the feathery flocks away from our docks. The boat, the S.S. Minnow, is a radio controlled boat that he operates in the water near the geese. The geese apparently do not like the intruder. Those pesky geese skeedattle out of the area when they see the mini ship coming.

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Interview with God
We received this interview copy from a friend, and it touched our hearts.
We wanted to share it with our friends and clients. We hope it will shape your day and touch your heart as well. After entering the interview site please press "view presentation" http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/

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Marina Improvements
Storage Area: We have added parking and storage adjacent to the marina. Fencing has been installed and the asphalt surface has been striped to delineate each storage space. Storage space is now available for RV, trailer and boat storage. We are making provisions for Kayak and row boat storage. For more information visit RV & Trailer Storage.

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One Boat per slip!
Salmon Bay Marina Moorage slip fees are based on the overall boat length or slip length. If more than one boat is floating in a slip, then the slip fee is the combined total of all boat lengths in the slip, regardless if the boats are side by side, beneath the bow, or at the stern. The marina office will be sending billing to tenants who are mooring more than one boat in their slip.

Tenders, kayaks and dinghies, etc. can be placed onboard tenants vessel to reduce slip fees. Moorage fees are not assessed for tenders stored on board that do not add to the overall length of the tenants registered boat.

We are making provisions in the new storage area for dinghies, Kayaks and tenders. For storage rates in the new area, please contact the marina office.

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The Web Site Updated Regularly
Salmon Bay Marina's Web site www.salmonbaymarina.com has added many features:

  • increase communication,
  • highlight important activities,
  • driving directions for family and friends.
  • a Reciprocal Links Page for boat oriented postings Links
  • several interesting links including boat maintenance and repair tips, boat handling tips, local tidal information etc. For information visit Links.
  • Boats for Sale - Are you in the market for a different boat? It is now easy to view our brokerage boats on line. We have several new listings. The information includes photos, specification sheets and asking price. Brokerage Boats.

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The Perfect Spot at Salmon Bay Marina
Are you anticipating the purchase of a different boat and wish to know what slips might be available? Do you have close friends at Salmon Salmon Bay Marina and desire to be near each other? Visit slip availability on our web site to see what might be possible. You can also see a slip map of the marina with slip locations displayed. Tenants can now use the slip map to show friends exactly where their slip is. Existing tenants at Salmon Bay always have priority in slip selection
.

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Reminders:

  • Tenant Materials on Docks and Walkways and NO-Smoking on the Docks:

    The City of Seattle Fire Department is on the warpath. Some of the issues relate to materials being stored on the docks and finger piers and smoking habits of tenants. Walkways must be kept clear. If it is not part of the dock, please remove the materials and place them onboard or in your car. Salmon Bay Marina has storage lockers for lease for nominal fees near the entry of B Dock and C Dock. If you need a storage locker please contact our office. Be aware that foreign materials left on the docks and walkways will be removed and disposed of. The Fire department requests that the dry standpipe valves on piers be maintained in the closed position. In addition tenants will no longer be allowed to smoke on the piers so please do not "light up" on the piers.

  • Pets On Leash?
    We look forward to our tenants frequently visiting their boats. To reduce potential injury or frustration, we must remind persons having pets to be sure their pet is on a leash when on marina property. This is important. Pets generally do not know when to get out of the way of humans. Children can become frightened and be pushed off the docks. Children may try to avoid a pet in the parking lot resulting in the child placing themselves in harms way. It is very important to clean up after your pet. Owners must clean up after their pets if the pet is using the parking lot or grass areas adjacent to the parking lot. Our marina staff regularly mows the grass and picks up debris. Stepping on feces and having to clean up is not fun. Tenants not following the leash rules or clean up rules may result in having their pet banned from the Marina. Please be sure your pet is on leash when away from your boat.
  • Bird Feeding
    We know it is fun to feed the ducks and geese that swim around the boats. Feeding the birds results in the birds frequenting the parking lot and dock surfaces. The birds are not potty trained and as a result do cause a mess. The mess gets on tenants shoes and is tracked onto docks and into boats. Lets try and keep the carpets in the boats clean by not encouraging the birds to stick around. Please do not feed the birds. - Thanks.

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Privacy
Salmon Bay Marina is concerned about tenant privacy. Therefore, we will not release tenant information without permission. Several tenants have expressed a desire to have their slip location and contact information available to their family and friends. We are still looking for input on developing a "Marina Tenant Roster" for those who would choose to be included. We welcome our tenant's input on this idea. Send us an e-mail with your comments at sales@salmonbaymarina.com, or stop by at the office.

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